saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love brought to you by . I’m your host Anna Nadeina, Head of Growth for In this episode #14 we are talking with Ryan Singer, the member of the initial 3-people team at 37signals, now author of Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters, and the founder of Felt Presence, helping product teams stop running in circles and regain the thrill of building.

In this episode, we help you uncover the secrets of successful project management as we navigate through fixed project duration and the art of asking the right questions with Ryan. Understand how Shape Up impacts businesses of all types; whether you’re bootstrapped or VC-backed, there’s something for everyone here. We help you shift your paradigm from estimating timelines to setting project time limits and make you realize that the specifics of Shape Up implementation can vary according to your company type.

Ryan shares his invaluable insights on creating a repeatable process that doesn’t rely on one person’s knowledge. We discuss the importance of a unique ratio of developers to designers and its influence on the product vision. Finally, we touch upon ensuring that technical factors are taken into account during project planning.

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